July 6, 2011

Justice Served?

I have to admit that, beyond the headlines, I paid no attention whatsoever to the Casey Anthony trial. I know nothing about the evidence, the testimony, the lawyers, the judge or, well, anything. But I did know something yesterday when I saw the verdict - it was going to evoke some strong reactions.

What do you think? Was justice served or was it a miscarriage of justice? Or do you just not give a damn?

Posted by Chris at July 6, 2011 8:17 AM

I don't really give a damn. From my understanding of the case and the court proceedings, the prosecution dropped the ball on this one. I honestly didn't realize people were seriously following this thing until I saw everybody's shock and disbelief on Facebook. At least now hopefully I don't have to watch them drag this out every time I turn on the news.

Posted by: Fraulein N at July 6, 2011 9:23 AM

My opinion isn't the popular knee-jerk reaction. I think the prosecution rushed this thing, and in the process made it totally FUBAR and had no chance whatsoever. Do I think justice was served? That's a double-edged sword. Did the jury come to the decision they had to come to, based on testimony and evidence (or in this case, the lack thereof) rather than emotion? You bet. They did their job. I'm sure they're sick about it, but they played the system as it was intended to be played. But there's still no justice for Caylee, because something happened to her that caused her death - and we don't know what that was beyond the shadow of a doubt, all the "I know it as sure as I'm sitting here" notwithstanding. My personal opinion? If they haven't effed up everything about this case beyond repair already - take a good look at grandpa. Men who learn their grandchild has been murdered and the body found don't, as a rule, become suicidal, they feel homicidal rage. Men usually become suicidal in cases where there's been a big break, and they fear the hounds are getting too close to their heels. Grandma lied. She testified she was the one doing searches on chloroform, and the records at her workplace show her at her desk on the company computer when the searches were done at her home. Did Casey have anything to do directly with her daughter's death? I don't know. But I feel that if not, she does know what happened. I think grandma knows too. Too bad the rest of us may never know.

Posted by: Julee at July 6, 2011 9:26 AM

Based on what I read about her behavior when her daughter as missing, she sure seemed guilty. As the mother of 3 children, I would turn the world upside down to find my kids if they were missing and everybody would know it.

However, I followed the trial a little bit and every time I read an article about it, the legal experts would say that the prosecution did not have enough evidence and there would be reasonable doubt. Bottom line, I don't think justice was served for that little girl but I think the jurors did what they legally had to do and I don't envy them.

Posted by: Carolyn at July 6, 2011 9:30 AM

I can't wait until the media moves on to something new. Which should be, what, tomorrow? Hooray!

For what it's worth, it sounds like the case was botched from the start and the prosecution was unable to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. The people on jury did their jobs. Trying someone in the court of public opinion is no good, then you wind up with Amanda Knox imprisoned in Italy.

Posted by: Erin at July 6, 2011 10:12 AM

Was she a good mother?? ABSOLUTELY NOT but did she kill her child? Not sure and the state never presented hard evidence that she did just hard evidence that she wasn't a very good mother. Not surprised she walked, not sure if she's innocent or guilty.

I am tired of hearing that the system failed. Just because the defense did their job by presenting reasonable doubt doesn't mean our system is broken...it means it's working just fine.

Posted by: Darren at July 6, 2011 10:13 AM

Like you, I didn't really follow it but you couldn't help but hear or read things here and there. I agree with the other readers. Not sure "justice" was served but I also understood there was no clear cut evidence or "smoking gun" to convict her. Was she a terrible person? Sounds like it. But that doesn't mean she murdered anyone.

Posted by: Debbie at July 6, 2011 10:18 AM

There was a trial? Who's Casey Anthony?

Posted by: Heather at July 6, 2011 10:19 AM

I didn't watch the trial on tv but followed in synopsis on the news and online just out of curiosity. I don't think there was enough evidence to even charge her with 1st degree murder. The prosecution botched this. I do think that Casey should be held responsible for her daughter in some way. The child was missing and she never reported it? A month? That's neglect at the least. Abuse of a corpse? There has to be something.

With that being said, I don't understand the media circus surrounding this particular case. How many other children went missing or were murdered in 2008?

Posted by: Lisa at July 6, 2011 11:04 AM

I thought I'd be the only one who agreed with the jury. I certainly was one of the many whose jaw dropped when the verdict was read.

I didn't watch any of it except for the verdict yesterday but from what I heard earlier, I didn't think the prosecution had a case. I also thought that she'd be found guilty anyhow in a state which is right up there with Texas with their love of executions.

If "justice" means holding someone responsible and then legally murdering them,that may never happen. The prosecution moved from SNAFU to FUBAR when they decided to use character assassination to make up for lack of hard evidence and when they decided to ask for the death penalty. I can't read minds but that jury might have been unwilling to execute someone just because they didn't like her. They might have been less reluctant to impose a sentence which could have been reversed down the road. As it stood, the only charge for which there was no reasonable doubt was lying to a police officer. Right up there with "but officer, I was only going the legal limit" or "why no, I wasn't drinking".

Did she kill that little girl? Did someone else? Was it just a horrible accident and everything that followed the result of panic? I don't know and right now neither does anyone else except the killer, if there was one. Our legal system worked as well as it could and killing another person will not bring that beautiful child back.

Posted by: ann adams at July 6, 2011 11:10 AM

i don't wanna get all nancy grace on here but i am disgusted. did she get a fair trial? yes. did the prosecution fail? yes. were the requirements of the jury met? yes. but to me it just proves that our justice system, in it's imperfect attempt at protecting the innocent, is skewed toward defendants and away from victims and children. because thank goodness the monster gets a fair trial! never mind a child is dead.... i guess casey anthony can now devote the rest of her miserable life to searching out the real killer?! snort.

and why can't both sides have some burden of proof accountability in a capital murder trial? why can't the jury be able to say that neither side proved enough (as opposed to either an acquittal or hung jury based only on prosecution failure?) and leave the door open for a second trial somehow? i'm just really disgusted. again. and feel like our children can be killed by socio/psychopathic inbred uneducated -literally stupid- monsters who can then be defended by low-life slimy not-much-smarter counsel and then be acquitted by a jury that must have literally been living under a fucking rock for 3 years to not even have heard about the case or even have an appropriate gut-instinct response to any of it... and "justice" has been done!

there is clearly a vast difference between "fair trial" and "justice".

Posted by: kati at July 6, 2011 11:47 AM

I didn't follow the trial on television, but I read enough to realize how complicated this case was. The media was out to get Casey.

Was she a very bad mother, yes. Murder wasn't proven in my mind. She could have done this, but they didn't have enough evidence and/or time to make their case. In my mind, they were hasty and thought her bad mothering and behavior was going to nail her.

They didn't prove their case. They promised answers and never delivered.

The problem that I have with this case and others like it, is at the end of the day--someone is still dead. In this case, a two year old.

There are tons of cases like this. Lots of parents that need help & support and are just awful parents. Where is the support and the outrage for the living?

I feel there is much to learn here, but the lesson will be lost as everyone is caught up in wanting to make her pay.

Posted by: One Mom's Opinion at July 6, 2011 11:51 AM

Casey Anthony was clearly convicted in the public mind long before her trial began.

I personally can not fathom why she wouldn't report her child missing until she had the screws put to her.

I personally wanted her to be guilty.

While she may not have blood on her hands, her lack of concern, passivity, and straight up lies make her just as guilty to me. That in the very least should have earned her life without parole.

But the prosecution wanted the big burrito, they wanted to find her guilty of premeditated murder. That was a huge mistake. They never had the evidence to prove premeditated murder.

I think the public is more outraged that a woman who gave birth to a child didn't fight to her very last dying breath trying to save her. I know I can not understand it.

Posted by: Jen. now in Arizona at July 6, 2011 12:27 PM

I didn't watch it either, but judging from the reaction of people it tells me that our society is in bad shape. Just because you didn't get the verdict (or anything you wanted for that matter) doesn't mean the legal system is broke. Grow up and learn that life is sometimes unbalanced to things we don't like.

Posted by: Know at July 6, 2011 12:51 PM

When my daughter died in the car accident, I found myself looking for her for months, years, whenever I was in crowds. It took me years until I could go out and be with people again. I did not get tattoos, or go out drinking and dancing until the wee hours of the morning.

Do I think he was involved in the death of her child? Damn straight! Was justice served? Nope!

Posted by: Maribeth at July 6, 2011 1:54 PM

I echo what Carolyn said. Except that I work in law with more than your average number of parents (half of the firm is Mormon) and we followed this case at work closely.

I wanted her to be found guilty of child neglect that lead to the death of her daughter.

Do I believe that she had something to do with the death of her daughter?

I don't even have a shadow of doubt. I don't. But that is a gut reaction, a visceral reaction based on the details of her daughter's disappearance and her actions following them and not a "because the evidence says so" conclusion.

Do I believe that the prosecution failed to prove her guilt?


Do I believe the jury was correct to follow the letter of the law?


Do I believe justice was served?


Do I have faith in our justice system?

You bet your ass I do. We have the best system in the world.

Posted by: Mindy at July 6, 2011 2:24 PM

I agree wholeheartedly with Mindy. I don't like the outcome but that's my gut reaction. What mother doesn't report her 2 year old missing for 31 days? Just unbelievable.

The jury did what it was tasked to do. They had an unenviable job. I would bet their guts said Casey was guilty too. . . but their decision is related strictly to the evidence that was presented.

I personally just hope she is unable to profit from this whole mess.

Posted by: 3jaysmom at July 6, 2011 3:31 PM

I agree wholeheartedly with Mindy. I don't like the outcome but that's my gut reaction. What mother doesn't report her 2 year old missing for 31 days? Just unbelievable.

The jury did what it was tasked to do. They had an unenviable job. I would bet their guts said Casey was guilty too. . . but their decision is related strictly to the evidence that was presented.

I personally just hope she is unable to profit from this whole mess.

Posted by: 3jaysmom at July 6, 2011 3:31 PM

I'm very unhappy that she can go on - and probably be a rich woman. I believe she was guilty.

Posted by: cassie-b at July 6, 2011 3:46 PM

I'm an Orlando resident (grew up only a few miles from Suburban Drive where Caylee was found). We've been forced to live and breathe this case for three years now (I can tell you where I was and what I was doing when they found her...wish I couldn't).

Did the jury get it right? I don't know. What I do know is that she is guilty of something - covering up a horrible accident, manslaughter, murder...

More than anything it galls me that she is going to make a lot of money off of something that cost us a heck of a lot of public money.

Posted by: Melissa at July 6, 2011 6:48 PM

I have to agree with Mindy. In my mind, she is guilty...but the prosecution did not do a very good job proving it and the jury had to go with the information they were given. The jury did their job, the prosecution did not.

Posted by: Krush at July 6, 2011 7:51 PM

The whole thing just breaks my heart. I haven't been following any of the trial because I just don't have the emotional energy. I simply hope that Casey Anthony gets the justice she deserves.

Posted by: laurs at July 6, 2011 8:10 PM

The prosecution did a terrible job, they really proved nothing. If you start sentencing people to death based on a case of character assignation, you will start sending more and more innocent people to jail. There is no such thing as a clean crime scene. The prosecution should have concentrated more on evidence than getting their name in the paper. When you get over confident you get careless. They get paid well, and they should do a better job. The evidence presented was "reasonable doubt"
~For the record, I think she is guilty in some way, but thank god you dont get to convict people just on what you might think of them. BAD, BAD job!

Posted by: shannon at July 6, 2011 9:13 PM

Julee: I can say without a doubt that my own grandparents blame themselves way too much for the failings of their own children. If my grandfather had thought that my mother had killed me at age 2, I don't think he'd be able to kill his own daughter. Would he completely blame himself? Going to go with yes.

kati: The legal system isn't about protecting the innocent. It's about punishing those who, beyond a reasonable doubt, have committed the crime of which they are accused. It pisses me off that this is the basis of our system only because about 400 years ago, give or take, society was much more willing to convict on pretty much anything and we did have to protect the accused.

Justice: True justice would be served if you could bring the little girl back. Anything after that... it's not enough.

Blame the prosecutors as much as you want, but if you have an elected official, they often find themselves pandering to the same folks who then point the finger at them when what they demanded of the official was improbable at best.

Posted by: alektra at July 6, 2011 9:51 PM

I know a little girl is dead and the person who killed her isn't in jail for it. Justice has yet to be served, and may never be.

Children are not disposable toys.

Posted by: Poppy at July 6, 2011 10:17 PM