April 19, 2005

Cactus On Location

Whew...all that sleeping, non-work time flies by just about as quickly as the weekend! I'm back at work but working out of a different office today. So I won't be around much. So, talk amongst yourselves. Topics include:

- Why were two adults hitting rocks at each other with baseball bats behind a drug store on my way to work? Keep in mind it was 6:00 AM!

- Detroit - rockin' motor city or fifth circle of hell (no offence to those of you from Detroit)?

- What do the lyrics from American Pie by Don McLean mean?

Posted by Chris at April 19, 2005 07:55 AM

the adults? They were men right? Just sayin

Posted by: Pamalamadingdong at April 19, 2005 08:00 AM

I'm with Pam. With men, maybe we can't really know. Stupid people do stupid things - men or not.

Posted by: Autumn at April 19, 2005 08:10 AM

as sung by don mclean or madonna? cuz depending on who's doing the singing, the song takes on different meanings. :D

Posted by: patricia at April 19, 2005 08:38 AM

1. Because they were jackasses with nothing better to do. For the rest of their lives.

2. Fifth circle of hell. If hell is the largest rat infested sewer imaginable.

3. Its all about music. And to Patricia, Madonna should be shot for desecrating a good song like that. She's a disgusting freak.

Posted by: Jon in Michigan at April 19, 2005 09:00 AM

Detroit rockin' motor city or fifth circle of hell may not be that far off from one another. Bear with me very little architecture/urban planning lesson here. What is the only truly radial city in America? Detroit Rock City! Given the radial layout of the motor city, it may be the fifth circle of hell. My wife is from Detroit and I think she considers it to be a circle of hell, but that might just be the fact that her totally nutty family is still there.

The gentlemen hitting rocks at one another were trying to win a prize from the local radio station and their new morning zoo program.

Posted by: j.tonic at April 19, 2005 09:16 AM

I'm hoping those men playing rock baseball were high.

Posted by: Fraulein N at April 19, 2005 09:19 AM

1. these "people" with the baseball bats were saying "duh nuh nuh duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuhh" while they did this, weren't they? (ala beavis and butthead for anyone who didn't pick up on it)

2. can we call into question Detroit's claim to be "hockey town" while we're at it?

3. that's a drinkin' song, ain't it?

Posted by: monique at April 19, 2005 09:20 AM

Detroit is definitely the fifth circle of hell.

Working out of a different office? I hate it when that happens.

Posted by: Mala at April 19, 2005 10:04 AM

I'm with the above.....men were definitely high. No other reason...........

Posted by: Julie at April 19, 2005 10:22 AM

The lyrics from American Pie are an autobiographical reflection of Don McLean's life, from his memories of the death of Buddy Holly to the assassination of JFK.

More here.

Posted by: Mel at April 19, 2005 10:39 AM

1] they were trying to break their tie at winning the lottery [reference to the short story].

2] Never been there so can't really say but from what I've heard its the hell one.

3] A drunken suicide from what I take it as.

Posted by: angel at April 19, 2005 10:48 AM

I was born and raised there- it's the inner circle.
Or, as Jen's kids say, "It's the Dark Side."

That being said, I have a brave friend who is buying a loft there in an old historic building- Detroit is trying- still- to make a come back. NOTHING beats flower day at the Eastern Market- That's Heaven!

Posted by: vicki at April 19, 2005 11:34 AM

i can sure try... the bat-rock hitting contest... well, you're always going to have to wonder about certain people. Maybe it was a lesson... maybe it was distracting you from the exciting action that was going on on the other side of the street.. .did you look.. huh?? you might have missed something.

Detroit... i say rockin' motor city, but i'll decide for sure when i actually go there... um... if i actually go there. my dad is actually from there.. .my grandfather owened a motor-part store... that was before they moved to Florida and ran a gas station!

American pie... somewhere, somehow, you can find an article that explains it all... trust me, i've read it when i had the same curiosity running through my head... Marilyn Monroe, Elivis losing his fame, the plane that went down with the Big Bopper and Richie Vallens... and more, of course!

Posted by: Dubs at April 19, 2005 11:41 AM

I once saw a CD entitled "Don McLean's Greatest Hits". Here's the track listing:
1. "American Pie"
2. "American Pie (Live Version)"
3. "American Pie (Original Demo Version)"
4. "American Pie (Acoustic Version)"
5. "American Pie (Explicit Version)"
6. "American Pie" (Extended 12" Single)"
7. "American Pie" (Club Remix by Paul Oakenfold)"
8. "American Pie" (Featuring Ja-Rule, Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, and Beyonce)"

Posted by: Jason at April 19, 2005 12:08 PM

I'd say judging from the time of activity, the type of activity and the location of the activity that these were some guys who like drugs.

Or maybe they were just "guys." My guy friends do strange things at strange times. Midnight Naked Golf-ball Diving. That's all I'm gonna say.

Posted by: Gweny at April 19, 2005 12:19 PM

Detroit: fifth circle of hell (not to be confused with Hell, MI). I will venture in every few years to see a play or a Tigers game, but then I remember why I haven't been in a few years.

Posted by: Carolyn at April 19, 2005 12:33 PM

seiously 5th circle of hell. but why stop there? 9th circle of hell is much more serious.

detroit blows. the *only* biz trip i've ever been on that i hated and ended up leaving early. and tht includes kansas.

Posted by: colleen at April 19, 2005 02:53 PM

its their version of rock paper scissors?? or, um...maybe it is a ritual of some kind, every april 19th they go do that? and the song, gosh i dunno!!

Posted by: lizabetty at April 19, 2005 03:13 PM

1. That is up there with my commute in on the LIRR on fine beautiful morning staring out the window and seeing a naked man sitting on a table behind a garage repair shop laughing hysterically as he jacked off at the trains going by.

2. Hell, pure hell. The only cool thing was being there during Mustang Anniversary Week.

3. Did people really drink rye and drive to levys (or levies) back in the day?

Posted by: bd at April 19, 2005 03:25 PM

Thanks to Mel for the American Pie answer. I didn't know that.

Posted by: cassie-b at April 19, 2005 04:32 PM

Detroit is not hell or any circle of it. It is not a smashing or tourist-friendly city, but it can be fun. Big problems in Detroit:
1. Not a cohesive downtown. However, if you seriously want to know about good restaurants/ neighborhoods/bars/ etc, I can elaborate
2. Run by an incompetent individual, but that's not specific to Detroit, and the city is making some serious improvements even though it's an ungodly slow process. However, until the school system and the crime rates are respectable, it will be hard for people to move back and for the city to really thrive.
3. Way too much tension between the city and the surrounding suburbs. Way too many people "afraid" to venture to the city or support its endeavors. You're not going to get shot.
4. No mass transit, except the People Mover, which is a glorified carnival ride.

That being said, Detroit has a lot of strength, a lot of history, and a lot of character. Plz don't write it off.

Posted by: susannah at April 19, 2005 11:04 PM

I saw Don McLean perform American Pie in Chattanooga once and he told us what that song meant...

It means he never has to work another day in his life if he doesn't want to.

Posted by: Kerry at April 20, 2005 01:47 PM